YEARLAST NO.YEARLAST NO.YEARLAST NO.
1875Earliest #24318753001880980
188556001890(Electric #65)18911400
1895149001896(Metal nameplate)1900119000
1901(Whyte Laydie #20343)1904(Fire #23070)190523500
1909(Tubaphone #25052)1910(F-V stamp)191027000
1915322001920400001922-3(Vega stamp c.53000)
192567500193095000193598224
194098429194598604195098779
195398989195499067195599212
195699427195799581195899716
195910002119601005591961101998
19621start# 103001962last#.10522196312130
196412564196421240011964125641
196512677119661276811967128564
1968129119196912968205/15/70Sold to CFM
197013004819711394001972New series starting M1
03/79Sold to Galaxyc1985Sold to Deering
1. Due to a printers' error, serial numbers with only 5 digits and on yellow labels were usedfrom 10/1962 (no. A-10300) to 2/1964 (A-12400). The 'A' stands for 'Ajustable truss rod.'
2. A new series of numbers was started in February, 1964.
Q:What years was the flower pot headstock inlay available on the Tubaphone style 3, 5 string banjo? DL
A: Roughly 1909 to 1913, the last serial number seen was 30441.
Q:When did Vega (Fairbanks plate models) switch the Whyte Laydie models from a grooved/slotted stretcher band to a notched one? Fairbanks plate to F-V stamp to Vega stamp? Ferrule? Hooks? Rims? Fingerboards?
A: Although there are no absolutes where Vega is concerned, several years of research have led me to these conclusions about when certain changes were made (see Fairbanks Research article for data):
  • Electric, Whyte Laydie & Tubaphone Models: The Fairbanks Electric tone ring, was introduced in 1890; the earliest reported is serial #65. The earliest reported Whyte Laydie (which is the Electric tone ring with the addition of the bracket band) is #20343. The earliest reported Tubaphone is #25052. Double stamped Tubaphones with earlier numbers are WL's that were returned to the factory for retro-fitting.
  • Grooved vs. Notched Stretcher bands: The crossover on WL#2s happens between #24939 and #24945. Earlier WL#2s with notched stretcher bands probably were retro-fitted. WL#7s and one TU#9 continued to have grooved stretcher bands and cobra hooks until at least #25241. (One banjo, #24567, has a notched band on a heavily engraved Fairbanks Electric, full silver wrapped banjo with round hooks and a #7 style neck. Since this was a custom order, anything is possible, including having sent it back to the factory for later enhancement or modification.)
  • Name plate vs. F-V vs. Vega stamp: Plate (introduced circa #14900) to F-V seems to have happened between #26019 and #26023. F-V to Vega stamp, between #52669 and #52684. Vega stamp to yellow stick-on labels between 99369 and 99686.
  • Long vs. short ferrule: switchover is between #23721 and #23800.
  • Hooks: Cobra hooks first appear circa 1881 on Fairbanks & Cole banjos. The earliest reported is F&C #1000. They were used on Fairbanks Special Electrics, which appear in 1897 circa #17607, later they are only found on WL#7s up to and including #24939 and one TU#9 serial #25241.
  • Rim: Thin rims are approximately 3/8'. Thick rims (7/16' to 1/2') appear about the time of the introduction of the Tubaphone, with a few earlier WL's having the thicker rims, but none earlier than about #24939.
  • Fingerboards: There is no pattern to when and whether they used dyed wood or ebony on WL#2s, although the #7s seem to be all ebony. From the introduction of the Tubaphone, all WLs and TUs seem to have ebony fingerboards, but dyed fingerboards appear on the lesser instruments into the 1940s.
  • Reversed facing Gryphons: Most reported examples are in the mid 24000's serial numbers. These are not 'errors' but, I believe, Vega using up inventory in anticipation of the changed WL pegheads co-incident with the release of the new Tubaphone banjos. The reversed Gryphons were intended for the backs of WL#7 pegheads. Ever frugal, Vega used them on the fronts of WL#2s and Regents.
  • More research is needed to narrow the field. If you have a Whyte Laydie or Tubaphone within the serial number ranges stated above, or a Tubaphone with a serial number earlier than that listed, please let me know. Your confidentiality will be respected. Email Mike Holmes.
Q:Did Vega make any banjos before buying out Fairbanks? BR
A: There are a very few Fairbanks made banjos (several of them Regents) with pre-fire serial numbers circa 22900, stamped simply 'Vega' in an oval border. There is no evidence that Vega actually made banjos prior to buying out Fairbanks.
Q:At what point did Vega go from ball end to open end bracket nuts? JC
A: The earliest one I have recorded with open end nuts is #87058.
Q:At what point did Vega go to 'through the rim' bracket bolts on its WL and TPH banjos?
A: Serial #91892 is the earliest collected banjo with the bolts through the rim. It seems to coincide roughly with the introduction of the Vox models, the earliest serial number of which I have recorded is 93828.
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Q:Which flanges came first on Vega banjos, was it the 4 piece or the 28 piece? I was under the impression it was the 28 piece but according to the Tsumura red book it was the 4 piece. KS
A: There are several errors in the otherwise excellent Tsumura Red Book. Vega offered banjos in many sizes, so it stands to reason the 28 flanges would predate the 4 pieces, since they could go on a greater variety of sizes. The patent for the individual flange plates was filed 10/30/1923 and issued to Carl Nelson 08/11/1925. The patent for the 4 piece Vega Vox flange, with its trapezoidal shaped soundholes, was filed 03/21/1927 and issued to William Nelson on 03/12/1929. The Nelsons were the owners of, and assigned their patents to, Vega. According to banjo historian Stu Cohen, checking the relevant catalogs, 'The Vegaphone (a Tubaphone model with the 28 piece flange and resonator) was introduced in August, 1923. The 4 piece flange was introduced in August, 1928, along with the Vega Vox and the addition of Pearloid on the resonator wall.' Information added by Stan Werbin, 'the individual flanges continued on several models (including sometimes on the Vegaphone Professional), gradually appearing only on lesser models, until they disappeared for good sometime in 1932.'
Much of the information included in this article is the result of my own research, and therefore any errors are mine to claim. However, I am grateful for having received (and continue to receive) help and support from Jim Bollman, Stu Cohen, George Gruhn and Stan Werbin plus too many readers to mention all of them here, but all of whom have contributed information that either added to or confirmed what we now know. The serial numbers and dates are, however, at best approximate. MIH
Other Articles Of Interest:
An Homage to Fairbanks banjos.
Photos of Fairbanks, Vega & Other Banjo Tone Rings
Fairbanks & Vega History, With Emphasis On Tenors
Electric & Tubaphone Tone Rings
Fairbanks Research Project, Identifying & Dating
W.A. & F.E. Cole, Identifying & Dating
Identifying S. S. Stewart Banjos
Dating C. F. Martin Instruments
Patent Number List